San Fernando City, Pampanga, Philippines


San Fernando and Pampanga Province map.	....	Downtown San Fernando.

Calesa in Downtown.		Highway in Downtown and the McDonalds.

San Fernando City Cathedral.		Jeepney in Downtown.

Provincial Building of Pampanga in San Fernando City.		History Plaque of the City.

Barangay road.		Downtown.

Downtown.		Bridge over in San Fernando City.

Dolores Elementary School.		Jose B. Lingad Memorial Regional Hospital.

Circle in Downtown		San Fernando City.

Jeepney is everywhere sometimes they are the one who		cause the traffic for trying to pick up more passengers.

High School Students.		Horse.

Traffic Policeman.		Downtown.

Horses is falling in line		waiting for the passengers.

Downtown.		San Fernando Cathedral.

City Hall of San Fernando		City, Pampanga.

Walking with their Parasol.		Trying to buy in the market.

Fruit Vendors.		Too busy in this place.

Nursing student.		Selling Bananas.

San Fernando City		Public Market.

It is hard to move because too many		people walking back and forth.

Coming out from the Public Market.		Downtown.

Iglesia ni Cristo Church.		Highway going back to Angeles City.

Pampanga welcome sign in the divided highways.		Toll gate.

A huge Robinson's and SM Mall		in San Fernando City, Pampanga.

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	I jas only want to know the contact nos. of Kapitolyo ng San Fernando Pampanga.My cp#0917-978-2068.Waiting for ur reply soon.. Tnx so much! wemg \| hush_cuttie@yahoo.com.ph \| Brgy San Isidro Labrador, Sta Mesa Hgts., Quezon City \| Philippines Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 06:56:35 PM PST I am looking for a house rental furnished to start in May, 2010. If you can rent me a 2 bed room house I would appreciate it. Freddie Ruiz Freddie Ruiz \| FRUIZHB@YAHOO.COM or FRUIZHB@AOL.COM \| Dallas Texas, USA \| Dallas Texas Tuesday, March 09, 2010 at 06:50:05 PM PST hmm nkakamis ang san fernando hehehe!!! hmmm balita ko mas gumanda na dw yung san fernando!! inaayos na yung ilog hehe tska pla yung ng post ng picture dun sa tinapa bat ginwa nman banana hindi poh banana yun kung di tinapa hehehe malabot ata yung mata!! jimmy \| captain_terible@yahoo.com \| san agustine tulaoc san simon pampanga \| dubai uae Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 08:49:01 AM PST Hello from Las Vegas I am moving to San Fernando City Queensborough subdivison in 2012 start building then. The city looks good and an American can drive their. I just came from the Phikippines a week ago. Biggest mistake was not stopping in San Fernando to see my new city. Paul arney \| paulwarney@yahoo.com \| Las Vegas, Nevada USA \| Las Vegas, Nevada Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 03:38:54 AM PST hello to everybody..batch 1989-1993 s JASHS or pampanga high school.. hopefully dito may mga mkabasa s mga nkabatch ko.. mkakuwentuhan bah.. specially ung mga nging frends ko nuon, hehehehe.. i miss them.. lyzah clough \| angeles city, philippines \| georgia Tuesday, February 23, 2010 at 09:30:24 AM PST hay nkakamiss ang high school... musta n kya mga nging kaklase ko nun? 1989-1993... as in khit sno s knila wla akong balita.. nkakamiss s pinas..miss my family. lyzah clough \| angeles city, pampanga, philippines \| georgia Tuesday, February 23, 2010 at 09:21:56 AM PST Message for Mr. John Doe: I am the real Jane Doe. Are you happy now? Jane Doe \| swreckeron@gmail.com \| Cebu City \| Ririe, Idaho Friday, January 15, 2010 at 04:47:36 AM PST Message for John Doe, looking for Amilyn David's parents: my email address is 2010janedoe@gmail.com Jane Doe \| 2010janedoe@gmail.com \| City of San Fernando, Pampanga \| City of San Fernando, Pampanga Saturday, January 09, 2010 at 10:11:50 AM PST This message is for John Doe who is looking for the parents of Amilyn David. I personally know Amilyn David and her parents so I can give you the information you need. Email me at 2101janedoe@gmail.com Jane Doe \| 2010janedoe@gmail.com \| City of San Fernando, Pampanga \| City of San Fernando, Pampanga Saturday, January 09, 2010 at 10:09:18 AM PST Does anyone here know anything about the David Family (Amilyn David) how can I contact here parents? John Doe \| Cebu City, Philippines \| San Francisco USA Saturday, January 02, 2010 at 10:46:02 AM PST di po bananas un, they are TINAPA!!! wehek! =p however, good job! proud fernandinos and fernandinas.. aaron \| aaron@yahoo.com \| dolores,sn fdo,pamp,phl \| dolores,sn fdo,pamp,phl Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 01:15:11 PM PST this site should be updated.. lock of captions, or even more info about the city pls.. pampanga is a very nice place, specially sn fdo. so hope we can maintain cleanliness and orderliness of city..¢¾ kc \| kc@YAHOO.COM \| dolores,sn fdo,pampanga,phl \| angeles,pampanga,phl Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 01:09:35 PM PST It brings back memories......... There's no place like home! Cristina Capati \| crisca@rogers.com \| Dolores, City of San Fernando, Pampanga \| Brantford, Ontario Canada Wednesday, December 02, 2009 at 01:10:28 PM PST Nice to see the San Fernando Cathedral...The witnessed of my childhood. Arch. Elmer C. Canlas \| linearch@hotmail.com \| San Matias \| Toronto, Ontario, Canada Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 10:10:29 AM PST ang ganda po ng ginawa nyo info about our city,I would like to ask kung meron po bang map ng bawat barangay sa san fernando.Thank Yuo and Congaratulations for doing a good job.God Bless emily p. nunag \| jilwin_emily@yahoo.com.ph \| dolores city of san fernando pampanga \| at the same address Monday, November 16, 2009 at 04:26:43 AM PST Great job and keep it up folks. I grew up in SFP/dolores area and I've been looking for an old friend (carlos twano- 74'civil engineering graduate from UP and ferdinand chata) for ages. anybody outthere can email me their whereabout..Dakal pung salamat rod manapsal \| rod_manapsal @urscorp.com \| dolores, san fernando, pampanga \| virginia, usa Monday, November 02, 2009 at 10:10:33 AM PST very nice I really miss this, and this is the place i grew up.I remember when I was in high school back in 1983-1987 after school I used to walked from school(JASHS) to palengke and looking for jeepney to ride home.I haven't been back since 1992. Edward Cayanan \| cayananedward@yahoo.com \| san juan san fernando ,pampanga \| orange county,USA Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 02:39:17 PM PST hi,, i just want to ask kung saan ako makakabili ng lanterns in san fernando pampanga, please help me to have a contact to any store of lanters.. daphne ramos \| kenram_11@yahoo.com \| laguna \| manila Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 09:06:44 AM PST KUNG SINO MAN GUMAWA NITO, ANG TANGA. BAKIT MO GINAWANG BANANAS ANG MGA TINAPA!!! HAHAHHAHA.......MALABO BA MGA MATA MOH???? KAYEEE \| ANGEL@YAHOO.COM \| SN SIMON \| SN SIMON Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 07:07:20 PM PST I was 20 years ago here.. I love City of San Fernando..Very organised and beautiful places... Mabel A. Alcantara \| mabel1089@yahoo.com \| Blue Diamond Subdivision San Vicente Santo Tomas, Pampanga \| City of San Fernando Friday, October 09, 2009 at 11:29:16 PM PST this person emailed me. she says she and her family have little or no food or drinking water. who do i contact to get her help as soon as possible. JENNIFER D. CALARA DOLORES CITY OF SAN FERNANDO PAMPANGA, philippines 2000 cell number +639215340013 james a. galgano james galgano \| jamesagalgano@yahoo.com \| usa \| usa Saturday, October 03, 2009 at 12:09:49 AM PST Hi Fernandinos..Thanks for posting these great photos,cguro wayback 2006 pa itong mga ito,sana makapag-post kayo ng mga latest na photos,lalo na sa improvement ng downtown San Fernando,na malaki talaga ang pinagbago..sa kaayusan ng mga sidewalks,disiplinang gawa ng mga mamamayang Fernndinos sa tamang paggamit ng mga sidewalks, tawiran, improvements sa traffic flows,at maging sa kalinisan sa kapaligiran ng ating lungsod.Cguro nangyari ito,dahil sa Oplan Habitat,na,pinamunuhan ni Gen./Atty.Ramsey Ocampo,City Legal Administrator, at sa suporta ng masipag at magaling na City Mayor,na si Mayor Oscar Rodriguez..MAGSILBI TAMU... E.R. from PHS class63 \| elyramos1946@yahoo.com \| DRV, San Agustin, CSFP, Philippines \| CSFP, Philippines Monday, September 28, 2009 at 04:24:37 AM PST great pictures, I grew up in San Fernando and just like the rest of the comments here - it is really like flashback! When everyone of us do not have responsilities and stress in life, when we do not even know the pains of goodbyes, noong joyride sa mga kalesa, sa discoworld(afternoon discos)La Creacion hangout namin ng mga barkada ko to do shop naughty things, Edros. My mom used to have a puesto also in the old market, atsaka the old Kulasa school. Thank you for sharing these pictures. Sana thru this email, may makabasa ng mga ka batch ko rin sa Assumption or during elementary days. Net Sison Cooney \| anitascooney@yahoo.com \| san fernando pampanga \| out of philippines Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 06:07:29 PM PST san fernando pampanga is the best place i hav ever been i realy mis dis place. especially ung mga kasama kong tumatagay at pumupunta sa pampanga coliseum. lalu na pu ing simbang bengi keka tamu asnang kanyaman komusta namu kareng kabarkada ku kang pareng pektu,i bukul,i burug ampo deng anak na, pati kang disu, at keka u ngan ken a eke na abanggit pa uling manga patakla naku kanini. cge mingat namu ngan keke yu at mabuhay ka PAMPANGA and GOD BLESS this place thanks ryan punzalan \| ryanpunz@yahoo.com \| san fernando subdivision san fernando pampanga \| fremont , california Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 03:41:35 PM PST wow!its almost 10 yrs and hoping to visit san fernando (known to me as Palengke).I studied in SSA (old site) and was my mom's runner since i was in 3rd grade..My late Dad was among the pioneers of People's Bank n now Bank of P.I in consunji street. Was also a UCPB SN FDO.branch employee. a miss ku nala deng Kalesa..:)Thanks for this site.. vickie \| dolores ,san fdo. pampanga \| los angeles california.. Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 02:03:30 PM PST wow pong nice pix i miss home.. arabie \| fourth_horseman8@yahoo.com \| san jose san fernando pampanga \| dubai uae Monday, September 21, 2009 at 10:51:38 PM PST Hmmmm, nakaka homesick. 20+ years away from home never came back. Hopefully I can visit before I turn fifty. Bong \| errarox3@hotmail.com \| San Agustin SFP \| Calgary, AB Thursday, September 17, 2009 at 03:09:05 PM PST When I opened the website of my previous home I felt homesick! Theres no place like home!San Fernando City is my second home I was an employee for almost 13 years missing all my collegue!Happy to be back home!So much improvement!I miss riding Jeep and the kalesa!Looking forward to be back home soon! Normelita R. Arevalo \| donna.rodriguez26@yahoo.com \| Poblacion ,San Fernando City \| Dubai UAE Thursday, September 03, 2009 at 09:18:03 AM PST ang laki ng pagbabago ng san fernando ngayon,sana makauwi kami ng asawa ko sa taong ito para makita ang maunlad na bayan ito. sa lahat ng amin mga kabalen sa san fernando, pampanga.. mabuhay po kayong lahat.... eduardo o. sanchez \| edlyn1248@yahoo.com \| dolores, san fernando, pampanga \| brooklyn, new york Friday, August 14, 2009 at 09:57:04 AM PST Thank for posting these beautiful pictures. Na-homesick tuloy ako. I was born in Sn. Fernando at nag-aral ako sa San Fndo Elem. Sch. I walked to school every single day and when I finished the year with honors, my mother and I would ride the kalesa as a treat. Weekends, mother and I would walk to church (Our Lady of Assumption) and go to the "palengke". Wow! Ang daming nagbago but it's still home to me. Vilma \| vilma.fouts@yahoo.com \| 1st St.,Teopaco, San Fernando, Pampanga \| Cary, NC, USA Monday, August 03, 2009 at 06:55:34 AM PST want to have a job in san fernando, pampanga mae \| chadmae@yahoo.com \| san nicolas, lubao,pampanga \| labang,muntinlupa Monday, July 27, 2009 at 09:30:26 PM PST My husband found this website, nice pix specially the High School Students it remineds me of being so naive back then, I went to Jashs and used to walk to market place and get some barrets and take the calesa on my way home to Makabakle where I live, my Aunt Has a Dress shop called Nene's Creation where I learned all what I earned now in Toronto,Thanks auntie Ne! and thank you for this site that help me to remember all the memories of mu childhood. Good luck! Lydia David \| l_fare2002@yahoo.com \| Dolores,City of San Fernando,Pampanga,Philippines \| Toronto,Ontario Saturday, July 25, 2009 at 03:58:10 PM PST I went to JASHS and I just found out from your site that it has different name Thank you for the info.I grad in 1970-71 and left the country in 1978. Not too familiar of the towns of Pampanga TY. Actually,my parents were Ilocanos and moved to Pampanga in 1959 and we lived there eversince Helen Vallar Garcia \| helenvgarcia@aimcom \| Sto Tomas, Pampanga \| Kahului, Maui, Hawaii Wednesday, July 01, 2009 at 01:15:02 AM PST I was born in Dolores, San Fernando, Pampanga 1960. Loooking for relatives named Virginia Lunag? Basilio my mother's sister. mario sevilleja \| powerandlightelectric@yahoo.com \| San Jose City, Nueva Ecija, Philippines \| San Diego Ca. USA Thursday, June 18, 2009 at 06:32:03 PM PST I'm thankful for the person who created this site..I just sent its link to some of my friends who happened to be our fellow Kabalen abroad..For them to see how our Balen kapampngan looks like now.Thanks again!And also I would like to suggest that you put each of the photos in Albums by category..Especially those of churches(old,new & the newly renovated one like Chancery church in San Jose, San Fernando..Thanks! God bless and keep them coming! To all our Kabalen have a pleasant day!Lets all make this place a better place to live in! "We're all in this together!" CHEERS! Jaylyn \| chinits28@yahoo.com \| San Jose, City of San Fernando, Pampanga \| San Jose, City of San Fernando, Pampanga Sunday, June 14, 2009 at 09:42:56 AM PST woots ! nakakaloko naman may kelangan akong hanaping bahay sa sanfernando pero di ko alam kung san alam ko lang yung itsura nung bahay bukod dun wala na ! haha ! gudluck sa paghahanap ko db ? >:) Von \| caloocan city \| caloocan city Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 11:36:04 AM PST woots ! nakakaloko naman may kelangan akong hanaping bahay sa sanfernando pero di ko alam kung san alam ko lang yung itsura nung bahay bukod dun wala na ! haha ! gudluck sa paghahanap ko db ? >:) Von \| caloocan city \| caloocan city Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 11:36:01 AM PST I need help, i will be going to san fernando tomorrow, i need some detailed map/landmarks on how to get there from Nlex/SF exit going to the Capitol Compound. THank you Carlo \| papa_c@walla.com \| manila \| manila Monday, May 18, 2009 at 08:53:41 PM PST Hello!I've been to pampanga na and I love the place.This June I'm going back there sa Sto. Tomas na naman this time.I need help kasi this time my flight is from NAIA.I need to know where can I ride a BUS from NAIA.I don't know Manila that much.Last time kasi Clark Airport ako.Anyone willing to help me?Please send me email at bench0285@yahoo.com.Sana someone can help me..SALAMAT!:-) Ben John Gohing \| bench0285@yahoo.com \| 107 Gorordo Ave. Lahug Cebu City 6000 \| Cebu City Friday, May 15, 2009 at 04:15:55 AM PST Yes I really missed my hometown. I was born and raised in San Agustin, San Fernando. This site is really helpful , I learned the history better when I was in school. Your website is awesome. I will have my children to go to your site to learned about Philippine history. Aida Brown \| San Agustin, San Fernando, Pampanga \| Arlington, Texas USA Thursday, May 07, 2009 at 06:54:54 PM PST SFP is home sweethome, but the lahar sent us away. we were like billard balls that were hit by the white ball. families were dispersed all over the globe. however time slowly change all these and soon we would be back again in our dear hometown....lessons learned. to my townmates who still know me... mayap a aldo.... god bless you wherever you are......email me....... neal neal s. punsalan \| nealpunsalan@yahoo.com \| bulaklak village, santo ninio, SFP, philippines \| davao City, philippines Sunday, April 26, 2009 at 11:16:18 PM PST I miss the MCC and playing for the cathedral, to all MCC members continue singing for the Lord, don't ever give up. Aniang lalauan ku la ding litrato medyo mipapalua kupa. I would like to thank Mayor Oscar Rodriguez for all his help and support, dacal pu salamat! gina aguilar \| ginaaguilar@live.com \| cerhil san agustin san fernando \| saipan mp Thursday, April 02, 2009 at 09:54:50 PM PST hello good day po maka miss la pu ding pasyalan ken pampanga kaycee \| gonzaleskaycee@ymail.com \| sto rosario sta ana Pampanga \| toronto canada Wednesday, April 01, 2009 at 06:51:28 PM PST to all supplier or manufacturer of lantern pls contact me via my cellphone # 0922-8814557 or 0919-2998950 i want to know where to buy wholesale lantern in san fernando pampanga- johnson gotangho jsongotangho@yahoo.com posted february 26. 2009 johnson gotangho \| jsongotangho@yahoo.com \| 33 arayat st. cubao quezon city \| philippines Thursday, February 26, 2009 at 05:55:15 AM PST I got tears in my eyes cause remind me the public market that I used to go. It change a lot, but I really miss my hometown, nakaka homesick. Thank's sa mga pictutes more power.... Donna Strenkowski \| astrenkowski@yahoo.com \| St. Jude Village, San Fernando, Pampanga \| MO. USA Sunday, February 08, 2009 at 07:53:28 PM PST maka mis pu ing pamangan neng pasko deng ligligan parolyes im coming i dont know when my brothers n family c del carmen po cla the site beautiful may sm n robinson helo c mayor mvice mayor especially kay concial jimmy lazatin keep san fdo clean n god bless all d city hall staff d best ang san fdo rosita feliciano balmaceda \| rosefbalmaceda@yahoo.com \| del carmen san fdo pampanga \| jamaica new york usa Thursday, January 29, 2009 at 08:36:38 PM PST I miss San Fernando very much. Thanks for the pictures. Soon I'll be back. Lourdes C. Punsalan \| baby_punsalan@yahoo.com \| Bulaklak Village, Sto Nino san fdo. pampanga \| Adelanto CA. Sunday, January 25, 2009 at 02:23:48 PM PST It's great having these pictures here. It really indeed boosts my love for my hometown. I hope somebody will post old pictures of san fernando. I love history and I want to see what did my hometown looked way back before I was born. Another thing, the picture showing vendors selling bananas were NOT REALLY BANANAS. Those are smoked fish we call "TINAPA". but for the record, these picture are all COOL!!! :) JayPee \| Blazy2_zero@yahoo.com \| San fernando, Pampanga, Philippines \| mandaluyong City, Philippines Monday, January 05, 2009 at 08:06:02 PM PST Nice pictures,i would never forget a single location on those shots. I grew up there and remember my mom have small store close to Estrella Theater. Almost every day i am watching movie with my cousin,though i've been abroad for 33 years,San Fernando still a place to go and visit. Thanks Lourdes \| lourdescdavid@hotmail.com \| Dolores, San Fernando Pampanga \| Toronto,Canada Saturday, January 03, 2009 at 02:49:51 PM PST San Fernando has all my fondest childhood memories with my mom..where else to shop, dine, and get other needs that are not in our suking tindahan or palengke shelves? then highschool cutting classes for movies, and in college, i took my first year in UA it was all fun and i miss everything... brentirvine \| brent_irvine05@yahoo.com.au \| Sta Ana \| Singapore Friday, November 28, 2008 at 05:52:46 AM PST This is my HOME TOWN and proud of it. I miss everything there in San. Fernando. The lanterns every Christmas time form Mc. Arthur H-way to Olongapo-Gapan Road,food from( everybody's cafe,Apung Gari's Pandesal, Jun-Jun's Bibingka etc..), Metropolitan Cathedral during Holy week and my school University of The Assumption. I lived in london and now residing in New York, but San. Fernando will always be my 'HOME' Ronaldo Flores \| roaldfleurs@googlemail.com \| Unisite Subd (Assumption) San. Fernando,Pampanga \| New York Friday, November 14, 2008 at 04:19:16 PM PST I miss my hometown. I remember those kalesa, movie theater, public market,capitol building and the municipal hall. I enjoy just looking at those still pictures it reminds me of my younger days.Mabuhay Pampanga! Delyn \| Chelsea_83103@yahoo.com \| Sto Nino Magdalena San Fernando ,Pampanga \| Teaneck, New Jersey Thursday, November 06, 2008 at 04:24:41 AM PST I grew up in SFP, I was even a member of the Cathedral Knights of the Blessed Sacrament (KBS). Maka miss pu ing Sabo Buku atsaka "one day old" then, malbe kang sine keng Estrella, Frida, Melba, o kaya Susan Theater. I buy my school supplies from La Creation or Ignacio's. We used to roam the whole area in the afternoon after school (Don Bosco Academy, Bacolor). Maka-miss! Tnx kareng pics, i remember myself 20 years ago! Bert Hernandez \| hernandez_829@yahoo.com \| Bulaklak Village, Sto. Nino, SFP \| Miami, FL, USA Tuesday, November 04, 2008 at 03:23:38 PM PST My husband is from San Fernando and im going back soon! I love it and looking at these pics makes me so excited =) Hollie Claveria \| hollie.claveria@yahoo.com \| San Fernando Pampanga \| Manchester United Kingdom Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 01:37:45 PM PST the calesas made me think if there are still calesa lamp manufacturers in sn fernando.kindly send me some info.thanks. VANGIE NG \| countryroots06@yahoo.com \| cabanatuan city \| bulacan Monday, September 22, 2008 at 07:04:38 AM PST the calesas made me think if there are still calesa lamp manufacturers in sn fernando.kindly send me some info.thanks. VANGIE NG \| countryroots06@yahoo.com \| cabanatuan city \| bulacan Monday, September 22, 2008 at 07:04:32 AM PST the calesas made me think if there are still calesa lamp manufacturers in sn fernando.kindly send me some info.thanks. VANGIE NG \| countryroots06@yahoo.com \| cabanatuan city \| bulacan Monday, September 22, 2008 at 07:04:24 AM PST One of the landmarks in San Fernando City is Iglesia ni Cristo house of worship in the Ecclesiastical District of Pampanga. Spotter \| spotter82@gmail.com \| Valencia, Oriental Negros, Philippines \| Sibulan, Oriental Negros, Philippines Saturday, September 20, 2008 at 10:34:26 PM PST very nice i'm impressed good job. jonard \| jca1468@yahoo.com \| mabalacat \| florida Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 04:10:37 PM PST Such beautiful photos , I am at work here in ohio on the 3rd shift and my wife is from san fernandop la union who used to live 333 casuga street last name apilado. I have been there two times and miss it very much. my wife and daughter is leaving from ohio on thursday morning and going to san fernando la union to see her father who is very sick. i hope he lives long enought to see my wife and daughter. please pray for him hermino apilado. thank you for reading this david from usa David Brecht \| Brechtsr@att.net \| 3054 lantern drive oregon ohio 43616 usa \| 3054 lantern drive oregon ohio 43616 usa Wednesday, June 04, 2008 at 01:33:51 AM PST GREAT photos! But, I was also looking for a map of the city. Yes, I've been there - to the SM Mall. I'm looking for the location of the Capitol Compound (how far from SM Mall?). That's why I was looking for a map. Ken Osborn \| kosborn37@yahoo.com \| Alexandria, Virginia USA \| Angeles City, Pampanga RP Tuesday, March 04, 2008 at 01:13:10 AM PST I love Pampanga when I need to go back and get a realization of the United States. Phil \| Tampa, Florida USA \| Catbalogan Samar Philippines Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 08:36:34 PM PST Wow! this is great and the way it should be except where's the maps on this magnificent page? Jeffery Davis \| Hopkinsville, Kentucky USA Saturday, November 18, 2006 at 09:15:23 PM PST
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